Why Choose the Icom 7300 over the 7610? 6

Icom 7300 - Small and sleek bag of tricks

Icom 7300 – Small and sleek bag of tricks

Ever since the Icom 7300 came out I have wanted it, it looks the part, it’s steps ahead of the competition (at the price point) and all the reviews seem ecstatic. This was also all backed up by the sales statistics; it was easily the top selling rig in 2016 and will probably continue to be in 2017.

So why didn’t I buy it earlier? Well I decided to wait until the “bigger brother” was announced in the range, why buy an entry level rig when you can get the fully featured one? I thought this was a sensible idea (and it was), plus 2016’s finances were tied up in buying a new house…

Fast forward to March 2017 and several things have happened; I’ve moved QTH, my shack is set up, antennas are up in the garden and the Icom 7610 has been announced.

Icom 7610 Pre-Release Information Sheet

Icom 7610 Pre-Release Information Sheet

I waited with baited breath for every bit of information regarding the imminent release of the Icom 7610. We had some tantalising videos released of it in operation but the real thing I wanted to know was the price. 

Initially Martin Lynch indicated it would cost £3,000, a pretty penny to be sure and the upper end of what I was expecting based on the Icom 7600’s price. I was still interested though, until the death blow… the quoted price didn’t include VAT (tax)! So suddenly I’m looking at £3599.99 for a mid-range rig, this is particularly eye watering given I can’t (personally) see many advantages over the 7300 selling for £1,199.99.

 

 

Icom 7610 - Courtesy of icom.jp

Icom 7610 – Courtesy of icom.jp

 

What does the Icom 7610 do that the 7300 doesn’t?

So what else does the 7610 objectively do that the 7300 doesn’t? Well at this stage it’s hard to really tell because we only have press releases to go on, but we do know about the following additional features:

1. Dual Receive – receive two bands/modes at once, it actually seems like you could operate on two bands using two different modes at the same time. This is likely to appeal to serious DX’ers and SO2R (Single Operator 2 Receivers) contest operators.

2. Monitor output – See the rig display on a large monitor, albeit via an antiquated DVI connector, strange choice given the widespread adoption of HDMI. I’m not sure I see the use really as the display output just shows the rig display on a larger screen, there’s no additional information to make use of the extra “screen real-estate”.

3. Larger LCD display – a full 7 inch display versus the 4 inch display of the 7300. Very nice and I’m sure it’ll look gorgeous. But how useful will this be given you’ll need to see the displays for two different receivers – so effectively just duplicating the same 7300 display for each receiver?

4. Two antenna connectors -The 7610 includes two sockets which will be useful when using the twin receivers and for a dedicate RX only antenna. This is a limitation of the 7300, it has a single antenna but supports all HF bands and then 6m and 4m, so two antenna sockets would have been handy (but nothing an antenna switch can’t sort out).

5. Transverter support – It seems like the 7610 will include the ability to drive a transverter for 2m/70cm and above. A friend (Phil M0NVS) is an avid VHF contester and used the 7300 with a transverter (and amp) but found the signal output to be poor quality and received complaints. Maybe the 7610 will be better? It will certainly help that it’s been designed to drive a transverter!

What does the Icom 7300 do that the 7610 doesn’t?

As you would expect the Icom 7610 does almost everything that the 7300 does (and more). But there’s one surprising omission – the 4m Band!

Strangely Icom chose not to include the 4m band on the 7610, but it is present on the 7300. Most people won’t miss this, but it seemed like Icom were previously trying to differentiate their rigs from the competition based on the inclusion of 4m alongside the usual HF/6m.

Icom 7300 - Ergonomics are really good

Icom 7300 – Ergonomics are really good

So the Icom 7610 looks awesome, why choose the 7300?

True, the Icom 7610 does look great, but the crucial point for me was this…

You can buy three Icom 7300’s for the same price as a single Icom 7610 and still have £100 left over! I could stack all three up and receive and operate independently on them (if I wanted)

It’s as simple as that, the additional features offered by the 7610 don’t equate to the additional £2,400 it costs. Back this up with the great reviews the 7300 has already received and the argument isn’t compelling enough to spend the extra cash (to me at least).

This spurred on my decision to forego the Icom 7610 and buy a used (but mint condition) Icom 7300 for £300 less (buying a Heil Pro 7 with the change) than a new one! Will I regret the decision? I don’t think I will. Sure, I’ll still want the Icom 7610 when I see all the reviews and get to play with it, but I don’t think I can warrant the price difference.

What I’m not saying with this blog post is that the Icom 7300 is better than the 7610, I’m just trying to explain my rationale for choosing the “lesser” model. I’m sure the 7610 will go on to be popular, especially with serious contesters and DX’ers who need the dual watch options and added functionality (which I’m personally) not too bothered about having right now.

The Icom 7300 has lived up to my expectations so far and does everything I need it to (except 2m/70cm).

But what if the 7610 turns out to be the best thing ever? Simple, I’ll sell the second hand 7300, get pretty much what I paid for it and buy the 7610 second hand in a years time!

Are you considering buying the 7610 or 7300? I’d be keen to hear your reasons for choosing one over the other in the comments below.

Icom 7300 and the shack setup

Icom 7300 and the shack setup

Waterfall display on the Icom 7300

Waterfall display on the Icom 7300

6 thoughts on “Why Choose the Icom 7300 over the 7610?

  1. Reply Dave Remnant - M0SAT May 25,2017 07:49

    Hi James, great write up.

    Pretty much sums up my conclusions so far also.

    As you know, like Phil I’m a keen VHF & up contester but have been known to operate HF occasionally. The poor performance when driving TVTR’s was a big red flag so was looking at waiting for something with dedicated port. At the price point I’d rather spend the money on a 2nd hand K3 & P3 display, it’s a know quantity when operating in busy bands. The Icom will have to go a long way to justify itself at that price to me.

    Maybe when the reviews come out & the second hand market drops the price to sub £2K I might be tempted, but that’s a long way off.

    • Reply James Stevens May 25,2017 08:56

      Thanks for your comment Dave, as you say the Elecraft K3 has already proven itself on VHF+ so why would you buy a 7610 right now for this use?! Second hand K3(s) and P3 display vs 7610 for 2m and above… I know what I’d choose!

      The 7610 may turn out to be the best thing since sliced bread, but it’s going to have to work pretty hard to achieve this!

  2. Reply DrTeeth Jun 1,2017 17:43

    Hi,

    Just found your site as I came across the Log4OM review. It truly is amazing software and the support is stellar. Whenever one has difficulties with free software, the support chap(s), at some point say,”what do you expect? It’s free”!

    Not with Log4OM where there has been nothing that they will not try to fix. They have a 10 0% fit rate with no attitude!

    I ALSO HAVE AN ic-7300. With such an amazing rig, I doubt that there is anything that yer average amateur will miss. A rig so cheap that the XYL will find it difficult to say “no” to and with such performance! Then we can always say later on in the day,”well darling, I did but such a cheap rig so that I could buy you a darling! You DID get her a pressy didn’t you?

    The only thing I missed, but got used to, was the much higher definition display I got from the Flex 6300 that I sold to get the Icom. With the Icom, I just save the resolution in the memory and that does the trick.

  3. Reply S. Knight Jun 10,2017 21:16

    Thanks for the article as I was JUST comparing both this morning on-line at Ham Radio Outlet. I only wish KENWOOD had a similar pair to compare to match their new D74; which I appreciate.

    I appreciate the Dstar digital mode right now as a newer ham. DMR and Fusion are interesting, true, but Dstar has my affections right now.

    73s – steve

    W6COP

  4. Reply Joe Jun 22,2017 19:55

    A comment on the IC-7300 and transverters. They work really well together on this side of the POND. I run DEMI and Ten-Tec transverters. The DEMI ones are driven through a DEMI AOS-28, a neat little box to reduce 5 watts to milliwatts and separate the TX/RX lines. I hard key the DEMI transverters from the DIN pin on the 7300. The Ten-Tec is driven direct.

    A friend across town uses his 7300 with a DEMI low power 144/28 transverter to drive his batch of transverter that required a 2 meter IF. We talk Tuesday through Saturday on 222.1 to 2304.1. Give the 7300 a try with transverters, it works great!

    • Reply James Stevens Jun 23,2017 07:15

      Good to know Joe – I’ve only heard from my friend, who to be fair is trying to enter 2m contests with high power in a pretty active square. So pushing the whole thing to its limits!

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